[ENG] [Reading Out] Things which Loving BTS brought to me (G. Writer Jeong Ji-Hye) /[책읽아웃] BTS 덕질이 가져다 준 것들 (G. 정지혜 작가)
정지혜 작가님의 신작 “좋아하는 마음이 우릴 구할 거야♥”에 대한 인터뷰를 번역해 보았습니다. 사적인 서점은 예전에 관련된 칼럼을 읽은 적이 있어서 알고 있었는데 운영하시는 분이 아미이실 줄은 몰랐어요 ㅎㅎ 지민이나 방탄소년단에 대한 내용들도 있고, 다른 내용도 정말 재미있으니까 인터뷰 기사 꼭 읽어 보셨으면 좋겠어요. 인터뷰 내용이 재미있어서 책도 꼭 읽어 보고 싶단 생각이 드네요. 그리고 서점 인스타그램에 인터뷰 관련 게시물이 올라왔는데요https://www.instagram.com/p/B_UBm-DHoQl/?igshid=n304emdjohiq 작가님이 댓글에서 근지너대, 강양이 얘기는 못하신 게 아쉬우시다는 말씀도 하셨어요 ㅎㅎ
근지너대, 강양이, 갭사이신인 우리 지민이 사랑하시는 모든 분들 건강하고 행복한 주말 보내세요!💛
I translated the interview from ‘Channel Yes’ with writer Jeong Ji-Hye about her new book “Loving Mind Will Save Us”. She mentioned Jimin and BTS on her interview so I translated it. Have a nice, healthy and safe weekend💛 I always pray for your health.
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[Reading Out] Things which Loving BTS brought to me (G. Writer Jeong Ji-Hye)
Reading out – Oh Eun's Onggie-Jonggie(note: It means ‘Huddling’ in Korean) (Episode 132)
『Loving Mind Will Save Us(좋아하는 마음이 우릴 구할 거야♥/Joahaneun Maeum-i Wooril Guhal Geoya)』
Writer Jeong Ji-hye who thinks the bookstore is not a space but a person, and likes the word "attempt" rather than "challenge" is right next to me. (2020.04.23.)
Written by Shin Yeon-seon, Oh Eun(poet) Photographed by Producer Lee Ji-won
(Translated by @translation_jm)
(note: The name of this interview “책읽아웃(Chag-Ilg-Out)” means ‘Reading out’ in English. 책(chag) means book, 읽(Ilg) is etymon for the verb ‘read’, and it sounds like check it out.)
[Channel Yes]
Things like the play-list on which I only gathered my favorite songs, a luxurious walk when I savour the scenery that can only be enjoyed in that season, Einspanner coffee that I drink at my patron cafe, the time when the light stays in the bookstore for a moment or the time when I lie on my bed reading my books before I sleep.
Hello, I'm Oh Eun from Oh Eun's Onggie-Jonggie. I read a part of 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』 which is the 2nd book for writer Jeong Ji-Hye who is the operator of the "Private Bookstore(사적인 서점/Sajeok-in Seojeom)" for only one person and looks at her Loving Mind like an "Archeologist to herself." Writer Jeong Ji-Hye who said that "I've healed my wounded heart by being a fan of the idol for the first time in 15 years." The writer says that she hopes readers reading her books to be happy too while looking on her loving mind. I'm going to invite the writer Jeong Ji-Hye to <Reading Out – Oh Eun`s Onggie-Jonggie> to talk about her loving mind such as loving idols, books, and music today. Today's broadcast might definitely bring back ‘Loving Mind’ that we've forgotten in the meantime. Please look forward to us.
<Interview - Jeong Ji Hye>
Oh Eun: That's the greatest cheer of all time. (laughing)
Jeong Ji-Hye: Yes, I brought my fan club. (laughing)
Oh Eun: In September 2018, there was news of the end of season 1 of the book prescribing bookstore the ‘Private Bookstore'. I heard that you are consigning the management of the local bookstore called 'Mariseosa' in Gunsan. Did you receive the offer in advance?
Jeong Ji-Hye: CEO Lim Hyeon-Joo, who runs Mariseosa, was originally the editor of the publishing company that published my favorite book. From then on, she wanted to open a bookstore and a few years later, she really opened the bookstore in Gunsan. She ran the bookstore for 2 years and then she wanted to have a sabbatical year. So she contacted me to get a recommendation for someone to run her bookstore and I said I'd go there.
Oh Eun: I think it's bothering because you're consigning the management. You shouldn't be told that less people come than before.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I had that kind of burden too. Also I felt pressured that I should not cause any trouble since the CEO had been running the bookstore so well. Actually, the person who used to come often at that time doesn't come often now. (laughing) Instead, I can see many new faces so I think I created customers.
Oh Eun: How do you feel about coming and going between Seoul and Gunsan?
Jeong Ji-Hye: It feels like I`m living while traveling. I guess it's because I think in my mind that I'm resting.
Oh Eun: I'm sure you're also preparing for season 2 of your ‘Private bookstore’, so please tell me some news about it.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I'm planning to open my book store again in July this year. I used to get a reservation through my blog, but now I guess I'll get a reservation through the website in a similar way. We'd give you specific guidance, maybe in June. You won't miss the news if you look into the Instagram account of the ‘Private Bookstore’ carefully.
Oh Eun: There was an “ARMY” among the casts of <Reading Out – Oh Eun`s Onggie-Jonggie>. ARMY is here again after writer Kim-dal.
Jeong Ji-Hye: There was a message from writer Dal. When she was on the show, she said that her ‘bias’ is Jimin. One fan recorded and posted it on Twitter. She asked me to tell you that it was translated into Arabic and spread all over the world.
Oh Eun: Writer Jeong Ji-Hye will also confess her affection for Jimin, and I hope this will be spread in more languages. I`ll ask you.
Jeong Ji-Hye: Our Jimin is (laughing) He is a person who really fits well with these four letters, “Sarang-doongie“(note: It means lovely boy in Korean. Sarang means love and doongie is an affix used to express person‘s characteristics). Also we call him Gapsaicin(Gap+ capsaicin). He has the fairy-Pitt like charm which cross over between sexiness and cuteness, and between kindness and masculiness. He's the one who makes me smile only by watching him.
Oh Eun: The moment when she became a fan of BTS, the moment when BTS "saved" writer Jeong Ji-Hye, and other details will be discussed at the full-fledged talking about the book. Let me introduce the writer for now. "Writer, Book director, A Positive Romanticist. Her parents ran a supermarket, a stationery store, and a snack bar. She spent her childhood reading the complete collection of academic cartoons from the Geumseong publishing company, which was bought by dual-career parents. Next to her elementary school, there was a public library so she borrowed books by compacting the loan limit, returned them without reading half, and spent her school days in the library like that. It was a time when she underlined on Yoshimoto Banana's novels and watched the movie "Love Letter" until the videotape was warped. She is the prodigy of sensitivity who started her unrequited love even before entering elementary school, and a romanticist who keeps loving without being tired of it.
Jeong Ji-Hye, who stamps her feet to speak to others when she's into something, has lived as an editor who makes books, a bookstore clerk selling books, and a bookstore owner who runs a bookstore, by the side of the book she has loved for the longest time. "Private Bookstore," a book prescribing bookstore for one person which opened on Oct. 1st, 2016, was the result of agonizing about the bookstore where she can work as her best self, most joyfully and as much as she wants. The most frequently prescribed book is 『The Frontline of Writing(글쓰기의 최전선/Geul-sseugi-ui Choijeonseon)』 by writer Eun-yu. The book of life is Kim Yeon-soo's 『The Novelist's Work(소설가의 일/Soseolga-ui Il)』. She thinks that having the heart loving people is most needed to work for a bookstore for a long time.
She can't read books without pencils and post-its. It is also good to read in bed before sleeping, but reading in the bed in a leisurely morning is best. What she must do in April is to watch Iwai Shunji's movie <April Story>, and to repeat Noh Young-sim's song <April is crying(4월이 울고 있네/Sawol-i Ulgo Idne)>, indefinitely." Why did you recommend writer Eun-yu’s book mostly?
Jeong Ji-Hye: The most common misconception people have when I say I prescribe books is that I must have read a lot of books. Actually, I don`t prescribe one book for only one concern. I think the same book can go for 10 different worries depending on how we read it. The reason 『The Frontline of Writing(글쓰기의 최전선)』 prescribed mostly is because I told people who are confused because they can't organize their thoughts or understand their feelings well, or people who are overwhelmed with too much grief, to write with their own language, citing the expression "Give sorrow words" in 『Macbeth』. I told them this book is not about how to write well, but about how to write as I am.
Oh Eun: In fact, the writer yourself seems to have been influenced a lot by this book, too. I think that's how the book, 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』, came out.
Jeong Ji-Hye: Yes, you introduced me as the writer at first. I don't have a writer in my identity. I think I can call myself as the author, but I don't think I`m a writer. I also wrote that in the epilogue, but rather than being a creator, I think I'm a person who likes to take good writings that I found and to decode my thoughts about it or my experiences that were hard to shape up. As I was writing my book with that in my mind, there were many moments thinking, "Why would the person like me write a book?" Especially when I was writing the first book, that kind of thought came up a lot so I really left 『The Frontline of Writing(글쓰기의 최전선)』 like a Bible.
Oh Eun: It's time for you to introduce your 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』 to us by yourself.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I love books so much so I have jobs related to books. I tried to work harder because I liked it, so I got a big burnout. During those difficult times when I was so strenuous because I've never thought that it could be this hard by what I like, I found another feeling of love. That was BTS, and as I started to be a fan of idol when I was over 30, I realized that my loving mind can save me. I expressed right that story into my book. If you are going through a difficult time like me or if you are hoping for your life to be alive, I hope you read this book.
Oh Eun: You also wrote the article on social media showing your affection for the editor. What was the 'relationship beyond editor' like? Did you become a fan of BTS? (laughing)
Jeong Ji-Hye: No, it`s not. We met for the first time as a bookstore clerk and a publishing editor, in other words as a client, and we became the relationship that supports each other. I used to travel a lot to Japanese bookstores, so she suggested me to publish the book about it. That's how it went, and the design of the plan was changed to tie up what I published serially in the newspaper, and it became the book what it is now after I went to BTS' Wembley concert in London.
Oh Eun: There`s a line “My heart was wounded a lot in 2017“ (page 20). This is when you were running the “Private Bookstore”, right? What time was that?
Jung Ji-Hye: Maybe it's not long after the book fair. I opened the bookstore and worked almost nonstop for 9 months. It was my first bookstore, and I was so anxious to rest because I wanted to do well. But aside from being tired, I felt like I was losing myself. It was also what I didn't expect. As I saw, I found out that I'm working on something that shows myself although I`m a bookstore clerk. As the owner of the bookstore, I got a lot of attention and I'm exposed a lot. So I felt like the evaluation for the book store was the evaluation for me. Right after the book fair, it was the time when people thought that the ”Private Bookstore” was running well, but actually I even just sat down and cried while walking on the street. It was the first time for me to feel the unbearable depression.
Oh Eun: Then you happened to see BTS on YouTube, and that's what changed the writer Jeong Ji-hye`s life. I wonder what you did when you were a beginner of a fan.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I liked them alone and got a blind date. I was on a Fan-mate blind date. Usually, people mostly get close to strangers through Twitter. But my close acquaintance introduced me to a BTS fan, saying that she would suit me well. It was a senior who became a fan of BTS before me. She`s been to many overseas tours. She instructed me on how to sign up and how to get to the concert. She's my Fan-mento.
Oh Eun: In the book, the story of BTS, books, and walks comes out as what you like. I think each person has a different time and how do you think about it?
Jeong Ji-Hye: Time for reading books is my favorite time, but for now I also feel that it's work. It's combined with my living, rather than being purely fond of it, so there's a feeling of love and hatred for now. I'm doing it consistently, but there's a mixture of my mind that I want to do it and that I have to do it. The time being a fan is so happy that I sometimes wonder if I can be this happy. The time being a fan of BTS is like the childhood when we never have worries and doesn't care about anything. The world was achromatic, but now it really feels like that it's shining colorfully and dazzlingly. Walking is the time when I get healthy stimulation.
Oh Eun: What has changed the most before and after being a fan?
Jeong Ji-Hye: I feel I've become brave. I have lots of fears and I always want to be new, but I can't do it easily. But what I felt after being a fan was that a loving mind was really invincible. I‘ve really thought a lot that there's nothing that can beat this loving mind. I had thought I could never go abroad alone, but I went to London and Malta alone for the first time after I liked BTS. In that way, I became not to be afraid of traveling alone.
Oh Eun: One of the really good expressions is to be an 'archaeologist to myself.' We normally think that I know myself the best. We think there's anything else to excavate. But like an archaeologist, it is saying that I can find myself more. Did the writer yourself had an experience that your new self keep popping up while being a fan?
Jeong Ji-Hye: Yes, I get to do something I haven't done before. I've never donated blood before. And on Jimin's birthday, I donated blood for the first time as the birthday support. Since then, I've been donating blood almost every two to three months recently. It's something I've never done before in my life, but I'm trying to do a lot of things that are funnier than I had thought and things that I`m more willing to do than I had thought.
Oh Eun: If there's a book that consoled you as much as BTS do, it`d be nice to introduce it to us.
Jeong Ji-Hye: This is the book I read recently, novelist Lee Seung-woo`s 『Living in a Novel(소설을 살다/Soseol-eul Salda)』. I thought it was a book about creation theory when I first read it. It's a similar story, but the main story in the book is about deficiency or a sense of identity. One of my concerns was whether I was having an overinflated ego. I had a really hard time operating the “Private Bookstore”. I thought a lot about which bookstore owner would agonize about showing herself to others this much and I thought I'm a really funny person. But the book tells the story of the artist who draws a self-portrait. The reason why they don't or can't draw landscapes is that they can't turn their attention to the outside world because they have such a big universe inside of them. That story really comforted me because it sounded like, "You're not having an overinflated ego or a person who loves you too much, you're just not a landscape painter but a self-portrait painter." Thanks to the book, I no longer hate my appearance which seemed to be ugly and hateful.
Oh Eun: Let me ask you the official question of <Oh-eun's Onggie-Jonggie>. Is there any single book you would like to sell to listeners? But I will exclude Eun-yu and Kim Yeon-soo's books. Since I'm jealous. (laughing)
Jeong Ji-Hye: This question was difficult. There are so many favorite writers. Actually, I have several books of life. So I thought a lot about it. I wanted to introduce the most unexpected book. It's a book called 『Ask European Picture Book Writers(유럽의 그림책 작가들에게 묻다/Eurob-ui Geurimchak Jaggadeul-ege Mudda』 by writer Choi Hye-jin. The writer worked as a magazine editor for about 10 years, and the Burnout came so bad that she decided to stay in France. While she was staying in France, she couldn't speak in French so she got to read picture-book. She had thought that picture books were books that children read, but she felt that there was tremendous thinking and imagination in them. She became curious about what kind of life these people, who wrote and drew these things, had in their lives that made them so full of creative power. So she met 10 European picture book writers. It's the book about the interview with them. Anyone who wants to make their lives creatively will love it.
Oh Eun: If you had only one copy of 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』, who would you like to give it as a gift?
Jeong Ji-Hye: I want to give it to BTS as a gift (laughing) but if I think about the answer excluding them....... In fact, I think everyone once had a loving mind on something. We fall in love easily when we are young. But as we get older, we`re busy making a living, or we get to forget or lose our loving mind because we don`t know know what we like. I want to tell those people that if we live with a loving mind, our life will be rich this much.
Oh Eun: It reminds me of a line in the book. "I'm living with a feeling that I'm alive more vividly than ever before in my life." I think liking and loving something makes me have that kind of mind. Thank you for coming today.
Jeong Ji-Hye: It seems that it was the time for me to feel once again that the time talking about favorite things is always good. Loving feeling is a universal feeling. So I would appreciate you if you read my books coming up with things you like.
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근지너대, 강양이, 갭사이신인 우리 지민이 사랑하시는 모든 분들 건강하고 행복한 주말 보내세요!💛
I translated the interview from ‘Channel Yes’ with writer Jeong Ji-Hye about her new book “Loving Mind Will Save Us”. She mentioned Jimin and BTS on her interview so I translated it. Have a nice, healthy and safe weekend💛 I always pray for your health.
책 구매 링크: http://m.yes24.com/Goods/Detail/89760966?art_ch=41593?art_ch=41593
Original Link/원문 링크: http://ch.yes24.com/Article/View/41593
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[Reading Out] Things which Loving BTS brought to me (G. Writer Jeong Ji-Hye)
Reading out – Oh Eun's Onggie-Jonggie(note: It means ‘Huddling’ in Korean) (Episode 132)
『Loving Mind Will Save Us(좋아하는 마음이 우릴 구할 거야♥/Joahaneun Maeum-i Wooril Guhal Geoya)』
Writer Jeong Ji-hye who thinks the bookstore is not a space but a person, and likes the word "attempt" rather than "challenge" is right next to me. (2020.04.23.)
Written by Shin Yeon-seon, Oh Eun(poet) Photographed by Producer Lee Ji-won
(Translated by @translation_jm)
(note: The name of this interview “책읽아웃(Chag-Ilg-Out)” means ‘Reading out’ in English. 책(chag) means book, 읽(Ilg) is etymon for the verb ‘read’, and it sounds like check it out.)
[Channel Yes]
Things like the play-list on which I only gathered my favorite songs, a luxurious walk when I savour the scenery that can only be enjoyed in that season, Einspanner coffee that I drink at my patron cafe, the time when the light stays in the bookstore for a moment or the time when I lie on my bed reading my books before I sleep.
Hello, I'm Oh Eun from Oh Eun's Onggie-Jonggie. I read a part of 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』 which is the 2nd book for writer Jeong Ji-Hye who is the operator of the "Private Bookstore(사적인 서점/Sajeok-in Seojeom)" for only one person and looks at her Loving Mind like an "Archeologist to herself." Writer Jeong Ji-Hye who said that "I've healed my wounded heart by being a fan of the idol for the first time in 15 years." The writer says that she hopes readers reading her books to be happy too while looking on her loving mind. I'm going to invite the writer Jeong Ji-Hye to <Reading Out – Oh Eun`s Onggie-Jonggie> to talk about her loving mind such as loving idols, books, and music today. Today's broadcast might definitely bring back ‘Loving Mind’ that we've forgotten in the meantime. Please look forward to us.
<Interview - Jeong Ji Hye>
Oh Eun: That's the greatest cheer of all time. (laughing)
Jeong Ji-Hye: Yes, I brought my fan club. (laughing)
Oh Eun: In September 2018, there was news of the end of season 1 of the book prescribing bookstore the ‘Private Bookstore'. I heard that you are consigning the management of the local bookstore called 'Mariseosa' in Gunsan. Did you receive the offer in advance?
Jeong Ji-Hye: CEO Lim Hyeon-Joo, who runs Mariseosa, was originally the editor of the publishing company that published my favorite book. From then on, she wanted to open a bookstore and a few years later, she really opened the bookstore in Gunsan. She ran the bookstore for 2 years and then she wanted to have a sabbatical year. So she contacted me to get a recommendation for someone to run her bookstore and I said I'd go there.
Oh Eun: I think it's bothering because you're consigning the management. You shouldn't be told that less people come than before.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I had that kind of burden too. Also I felt pressured that I should not cause any trouble since the CEO had been running the bookstore so well. Actually, the person who used to come often at that time doesn't come often now. (laughing) Instead, I can see many new faces so I think I created customers.
Oh Eun: How do you feel about coming and going between Seoul and Gunsan?
Jeong Ji-Hye: It feels like I`m living while traveling. I guess it's because I think in my mind that I'm resting.
Oh Eun: I'm sure you're also preparing for season 2 of your ‘Private bookstore’, so please tell me some news about it.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I'm planning to open my book store again in July this year. I used to get a reservation through my blog, but now I guess I'll get a reservation through the website in a similar way. We'd give you specific guidance, maybe in June. You won't miss the news if you look into the Instagram account of the ‘Private Bookstore’ carefully.
Oh Eun: There was an “ARMY” among the casts of <Reading Out – Oh Eun`s Onggie-Jonggie>. ARMY is here again after writer Kim-dal.
Jeong Ji-Hye: There was a message from writer Dal. When she was on the show, she said that her ‘bias’ is Jimin. One fan recorded and posted it on Twitter. She asked me to tell you that it was translated into Arabic and spread all over the world.
Oh Eun: Writer Jeong Ji-Hye will also confess her affection for Jimin, and I hope this will be spread in more languages. I`ll ask you.
Jeong Ji-Hye: Our Jimin is (laughing) He is a person who really fits well with these four letters, “Sarang-doongie“(note: It means lovely boy in Korean. Sarang means love and doongie is an affix used to express person‘s characteristics). Also we call him Gapsaicin(Gap+ capsaicin). He has the fairy-Pitt like charm which cross over between sexiness and cuteness, and between kindness and masculiness. He's the one who makes me smile only by watching him.
Oh Eun: The moment when she became a fan of BTS, the moment when BTS "saved" writer Jeong Ji-Hye, and other details will be discussed at the full-fledged talking about the book. Let me introduce the writer for now. "Writer, Book director, A Positive Romanticist. Her parents ran a supermarket, a stationery store, and a snack bar. She spent her childhood reading the complete collection of academic cartoons from the Geumseong publishing company, which was bought by dual-career parents. Next to her elementary school, there was a public library so she borrowed books by compacting the loan limit, returned them without reading half, and spent her school days in the library like that. It was a time when she underlined on Yoshimoto Banana's novels and watched the movie "Love Letter" until the videotape was warped. She is the prodigy of sensitivity who started her unrequited love even before entering elementary school, and a romanticist who keeps loving without being tired of it.
Jeong Ji-Hye, who stamps her feet to speak to others when she's into something, has lived as an editor who makes books, a bookstore clerk selling books, and a bookstore owner who runs a bookstore, by the side of the book she has loved for the longest time. "Private Bookstore," a book prescribing bookstore for one person which opened on Oct. 1st, 2016, was the result of agonizing about the bookstore where she can work as her best self, most joyfully and as much as she wants. The most frequently prescribed book is 『The Frontline of Writing(글쓰기의 최전선/Geul-sseugi-ui Choijeonseon)』 by writer Eun-yu. The book of life is Kim Yeon-soo's 『The Novelist's Work(소설가의 일/Soseolga-ui Il)』. She thinks that having the heart loving people is most needed to work for a bookstore for a long time.
She can't read books without pencils and post-its. It is also good to read in bed before sleeping, but reading in the bed in a leisurely morning is best. What she must do in April is to watch Iwai Shunji's movie <April Story>, and to repeat Noh Young-sim's song <April is crying(4월이 울고 있네/Sawol-i Ulgo Idne)>, indefinitely." Why did you recommend writer Eun-yu’s book mostly?
Jeong Ji-Hye: The most common misconception people have when I say I prescribe books is that I must have read a lot of books. Actually, I don`t prescribe one book for only one concern. I think the same book can go for 10 different worries depending on how we read it. The reason 『The Frontline of Writing(글쓰기의 최전선)』 prescribed mostly is because I told people who are confused because they can't organize their thoughts or understand their feelings well, or people who are overwhelmed with too much grief, to write with their own language, citing the expression "Give sorrow words" in 『Macbeth』. I told them this book is not about how to write well, but about how to write as I am.
Oh Eun: In fact, the writer yourself seems to have been influenced a lot by this book, too. I think that's how the book, 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』, came out.
Jeong Ji-Hye: Yes, you introduced me as the writer at first. I don't have a writer in my identity. I think I can call myself as the author, but I don't think I`m a writer. I also wrote that in the epilogue, but rather than being a creator, I think I'm a person who likes to take good writings that I found and to decode my thoughts about it or my experiences that were hard to shape up. As I was writing my book with that in my mind, there were many moments thinking, "Why would the person like me write a book?" Especially when I was writing the first book, that kind of thought came up a lot so I really left 『The Frontline of Writing(글쓰기의 최전선)』 like a Bible.
Oh Eun: It's time for you to introduce your 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』 to us by yourself.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I love books so much so I have jobs related to books. I tried to work harder because I liked it, so I got a big burnout. During those difficult times when I was so strenuous because I've never thought that it could be this hard by what I like, I found another feeling of love. That was BTS, and as I started to be a fan of idol when I was over 30, I realized that my loving mind can save me. I expressed right that story into my book. If you are going through a difficult time like me or if you are hoping for your life to be alive, I hope you read this book.
Oh Eun: You also wrote the article on social media showing your affection for the editor. What was the 'relationship beyond editor' like? Did you become a fan of BTS? (laughing)
Jeong Ji-Hye: No, it`s not. We met for the first time as a bookstore clerk and a publishing editor, in other words as a client, and we became the relationship that supports each other. I used to travel a lot to Japanese bookstores, so she suggested me to publish the book about it. That's how it went, and the design of the plan was changed to tie up what I published serially in the newspaper, and it became the book what it is now after I went to BTS' Wembley concert in London.
Oh Eun: There`s a line “My heart was wounded a lot in 2017“ (page 20). This is when you were running the “Private Bookstore”, right? What time was that?
Jung Ji-Hye: Maybe it's not long after the book fair. I opened the bookstore and worked almost nonstop for 9 months. It was my first bookstore, and I was so anxious to rest because I wanted to do well. But aside from being tired, I felt like I was losing myself. It was also what I didn't expect. As I saw, I found out that I'm working on something that shows myself although I`m a bookstore clerk. As the owner of the bookstore, I got a lot of attention and I'm exposed a lot. So I felt like the evaluation for the book store was the evaluation for me. Right after the book fair, it was the time when people thought that the ”Private Bookstore” was running well, but actually I even just sat down and cried while walking on the street. It was the first time for me to feel the unbearable depression.
Oh Eun: Then you happened to see BTS on YouTube, and that's what changed the writer Jeong Ji-hye`s life. I wonder what you did when you were a beginner of a fan.
Jeong Ji-Hye: I liked them alone and got a blind date. I was on a Fan-mate blind date. Usually, people mostly get close to strangers through Twitter. But my close acquaintance introduced me to a BTS fan, saying that she would suit me well. It was a senior who became a fan of BTS before me. She`s been to many overseas tours. She instructed me on how to sign up and how to get to the concert. She's my Fan-mento.
Oh Eun: In the book, the story of BTS, books, and walks comes out as what you like. I think each person has a different time and how do you think about it?
Jeong Ji-Hye: Time for reading books is my favorite time, but for now I also feel that it's work. It's combined with my living, rather than being purely fond of it, so there's a feeling of love and hatred for now. I'm doing it consistently, but there's a mixture of my mind that I want to do it and that I have to do it. The time being a fan is so happy that I sometimes wonder if I can be this happy. The time being a fan of BTS is like the childhood when we never have worries and doesn't care about anything. The world was achromatic, but now it really feels like that it's shining colorfully and dazzlingly. Walking is the time when I get healthy stimulation.
Oh Eun: What has changed the most before and after being a fan?
Jeong Ji-Hye: I feel I've become brave. I have lots of fears and I always want to be new, but I can't do it easily. But what I felt after being a fan was that a loving mind was really invincible. I‘ve really thought a lot that there's nothing that can beat this loving mind. I had thought I could never go abroad alone, but I went to London and Malta alone for the first time after I liked BTS. In that way, I became not to be afraid of traveling alone.
Oh Eun: One of the really good expressions is to be an 'archaeologist to myself.' We normally think that I know myself the best. We think there's anything else to excavate. But like an archaeologist, it is saying that I can find myself more. Did the writer yourself had an experience that your new self keep popping up while being a fan?
Jeong Ji-Hye: Yes, I get to do something I haven't done before. I've never donated blood before. And on Jimin's birthday, I donated blood for the first time as the birthday support. Since then, I've been donating blood almost every two to three months recently. It's something I've never done before in my life, but I'm trying to do a lot of things that are funnier than I had thought and things that I`m more willing to do than I had thought.
Oh Eun: If there's a book that consoled you as much as BTS do, it`d be nice to introduce it to us.
Jeong Ji-Hye: This is the book I read recently, novelist Lee Seung-woo`s 『Living in a Novel(소설을 살다/Soseol-eul Salda)』. I thought it was a book about creation theory when I first read it. It's a similar story, but the main story in the book is about deficiency or a sense of identity. One of my concerns was whether I was having an overinflated ego. I had a really hard time operating the “Private Bookstore”. I thought a lot about which bookstore owner would agonize about showing herself to others this much and I thought I'm a really funny person. But the book tells the story of the artist who draws a self-portrait. The reason why they don't or can't draw landscapes is that they can't turn their attention to the outside world because they have such a big universe inside of them. That story really comforted me because it sounded like, "You're not having an overinflated ego or a person who loves you too much, you're just not a landscape painter but a self-portrait painter." Thanks to the book, I no longer hate my appearance which seemed to be ugly and hateful.
Oh Eun: Let me ask you the official question of <Oh-eun's Onggie-Jonggie>. Is there any single book you would like to sell to listeners? But I will exclude Eun-yu and Kim Yeon-soo's books. Since I'm jealous. (laughing)
Jeong Ji-Hye: This question was difficult. There are so many favorite writers. Actually, I have several books of life. So I thought a lot about it. I wanted to introduce the most unexpected book. It's a book called 『Ask European Picture Book Writers(유럽의 그림책 작가들에게 묻다/Eurob-ui Geurimchak Jaggadeul-ege Mudda』 by writer Choi Hye-jin. The writer worked as a magazine editor for about 10 years, and the Burnout came so bad that she decided to stay in France. While she was staying in France, she couldn't speak in French so she got to read picture-book. She had thought that picture books were books that children read, but she felt that there was tremendous thinking and imagination in them. She became curious about what kind of life these people, who wrote and drew these things, had in their lives that made them so full of creative power. So she met 10 European picture book writers. It's the book about the interview with them. Anyone who wants to make their lives creatively will love it.
Oh Eun: If you had only one copy of 『Loving Mind Will Save Us♥』, who would you like to give it as a gift?
Jeong Ji-Hye: I want to give it to BTS as a gift (laughing) but if I think about the answer excluding them....... In fact, I think everyone once had a loving mind on something. We fall in love easily when we are young. But as we get older, we`re busy making a living, or we get to forget or lose our loving mind because we don`t know know what we like. I want to tell those people that if we live with a loving mind, our life will be rich this much.
Oh Eun: It reminds me of a line in the book. "I'm living with a feeling that I'm alive more vividly than ever before in my life." I think liking and loving something makes me have that kind of mind. Thank you for coming today.
Jeong Ji-Hye: It seems that it was the time for me to feel once again that the time talking about favorite things is always good. Loving feeling is a universal feeling. So I would appreciate you if you read my books coming up with things you like.
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